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sextuplets in the news
Sunday, a Minnesota woman delivered sextuplets at 22 weeks gestation. The babies are all in critical condition.
http://wcco.com/topstories/local_story_162145756.html

Monday, an Arizona woman delivered sextuplets at 30 weeks, 4 days gestation. Her babies, astoundingly, ranged from 2 lbs 1 oz to 3 lbs.
http://kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=6640667
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19175054/ (this link inclues a picture of one of the babies)

I'm having a remarkably visceral reaction to this right now and I can't quite put it into words right now.

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leahmiriam From: leahmiriam Date: June 12th, 2007 03:33 pm (UTC) (Link)
That many babies is one of my worst nightmares.

How are you feeling?
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: June 12th, 2007 03:36 pm (UTC) (Link)
terrible, but that's par for the course. And, honestly, as horrible as I feel, I don't feel nearly as horrible as I'd expected to be feeling at this point, so I think I'm still pretty far ahead of the game.
leahmiriam From: leahmiriam Date: June 12th, 2007 03:42 pm (UTC) (Link)
You are supposed to be feeling like crap right now and it is bound to get worse as space gets tighter in there.

The next time you cannot finish your Milky Way, let me know!

mindycl From: mindycl Date: June 12th, 2007 04:35 pm (UTC) (Link)
First of all, the Morrison story is a crazy story. I'm chuckling how they're referring to it as if it were a birth, as if there will be long weeks ahead... 22 weekers have a very very slim chance of survival! I dont understand why those babies were even saved. Most hospitals dont save babies under 24 weeks gestation! I am going to bookmark that website so I can keep track of waht's going on. Even the ones that will survive have a lifetime of disabilities up ahead. It's crazy. They should have let the babies go. I wonder why she had to deliver at 22 weeks.

Secondly, don't let this affect you. I can tell you amazing triplet stories and horror triplet stories. Several people in my area have delivered healthy 36 weekers which they took home with them within a week. Then there are the not-so-great stories which I won't even mention. You just keep positive!!!
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: June 12th, 2007 04:41 pm (UTC) (Link)
it's not affecting me on a personal level with regard to the triplets. Triplets and sextuplets are in a whole different league. Other people's horror stories don't freak me out, in all honesty, just as other people's success stories don't necessarily soothe me. We all have our own set of concerns and fears, rational and not, and we deal with them accordingly.

What bothers me is their doctors. That the Masche's underwent IUI implies that they were monitored, which implies that the doctor had SOME clue that sextuplets were a vague possibility. And they still triggered and did the insemination. THAT'S what bothers me. And yes, Jennifer Masche has a success story, one that other women will cling to and say, "See? It can be done! I, too, can have healthy three pound sextuplets!" and I'm not entirely sure that's a GOOD thing.
zis770 From: zis770 Date: June 13th, 2007 12:12 am (UTC) (Link)
that must be EXTREMELY rare to have 30 week sextuplets. Given that 30 weeks isn't so bad for triplets. That's a revealed miracle. I have no clue how she survived those 30 weeks. Makes having triplets sound like a walk in the park. And I agree. Clinics and REs need to show accountability. I do know that their goal is one baby per gestation but here you have to wonder why they did the IUI as you say.

I hope nobody is thinking 'oh now I'll have sextuplets becaue this lady did it. Instant family!'

I think I had a similar attitude to yours. I tried not to think about the horror stories but kept them in the background but also thought just because someone else made it far doesn't mean I will. All we can do is try our best and daven to Hashem.

mindycl From: mindycl Date: June 15th, 2007 04:53 am (UTC) (Link)
well I knew it was gonna start happening...

This article is so right on!

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/daily/local/54706.php
mrn613 From: mrn613 Date: June 12th, 2007 04:41 pm (UTC) (Link)
You can't read stuff like that when you are pregnant, you just can't.
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: June 12th, 2007 04:42 pm (UTC) (Link)
it doesn't bother me in terms of my own pregnancy. It has no bearing on the outcome of my triplets at all. Not even a little. It's just... how did their doctors even allow them to get to the point of getting pregnant with sextuplets in the first place???
mrn613 From: mrn613 Date: June 12th, 2007 04:45 pm (UTC) (Link)
well, just like the the McCaughey case: the doctors try to abandon the cycle, but the couple goes against medical advice and does the dirty deed anyway. Even if you don't trigger, it is still possible to ovulate some or all of the mature follicles. That's why you have to take antagonists or superagonists (i.e. lupron) during IVF -- you will ovulate without them.
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: June 12th, 2007 04:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
But in the McCaughey's case they were stupid and made an irresponsible decision. In the case of the Masches... the DOCTOR made a decision. They had IUI, which means the doctor made that choice NOT to abandon the cycle.
mrn613 From: mrn613 Date: June 12th, 2007 04:52 pm (UTC) (Link)
First of all, you can't necessarily believe the press release put out by the couple, because their fertility doc can't contradict them because of medical privacy law. Second, it's possible they weren't that closely monitored or were monitored with poor sonography equipment. A 10 mm follicle doesn't contain a mature egg, but a 12 mm follicle might. Also, there are clinics that require you to sign papers stating you will reduce if you conceive more than x fetuses, but the papers can't be enforced.
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: June 12th, 2007 04:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
I was actually going by what was on their personal website. But good point about the 12mm follicle since the 14mm follicles are how I ended up with triplets even though usually only 16mm and above follicles produce a mature egg.

I'm very relieved that she's had a positive outcome. Please don't think I'm overlooking that part.
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