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Parking Tickets - Karen's Musings
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Parking Tickets
Generally, I try not to use profanity in my blog. A warning to those with sensitive personas: I'm not completely convinced that I will be able to uphold this standard in this particular entry. I won't be offended if you skip it. I will, however, put the expletives under LJ cuts in case you don't want to see them. Aren't I nice? Though, since this is an email-post and I've had sketchy luck with email posts, I make no guarantees that the formatting of the cut tags will work out correctly and I won't be able to fix it until I get home.

A couple of months ago, I got a parking ticket at the garage I used to park in. The citation claimed that I was parked in a carpool permit only zone without a carpool permit. The citation was correct on one point: I did not have a carpool permit displayed. However, it was incorrect that the space I was in was a carpool permit space. In fact, a week prior, the space HAD been a carpool space, but the garage was going through some major changes in terms of designated permit spaces vs. carpool spaces vs. meter spaces to accommodate a greater number of carpool spaces. The space I was parked in that day had been re-designated as a regular permit space.

It was a $50 ticket. I'm happy to say that I'm at a point in my life where it would have been cheaper for me to pay the damn ticket than to miss a couple hours of work to fight the ticket. But there was no way I was paying this ticket just on general principal. I even took pictures!

Well, today was my court date. I pled "not guilty" to the ticket and explained that the garage had been going through a period of transition, but that the space I was in was no longer designated as a carpool space. And then the bastard -ahem- county employee who gave me the freaking ticket said, "Your honor, I'm in that garage every day. I wouldn't have given the citation if it wasn't correct." And you know what? That freaking bastard of a judge agreed with the bastard- I mean county employee. He was "nice" enough to reduce my fine to $10, but of course added court fees, for a grand total of $32.50 due. Total loss? Several hours of my life and a couple hundred dollars.

I suppose I should just learn to pay the stupid tickets instead of arguing them. But you know? I hope that little piss-ant- I mean, county employee is at least a little bit pissed off that I "wasted" a bit of his time.

It's completely illogical that I'm this pissed off about this, but I am. And I hope I get over it soon, because I get enough freaking migraines as it is.

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bluejeanjexy From: bluejeanjexy Date: June 19th, 2006 08:14 pm (UTC) (Link)
your lj cuts could have been hiding much worse. good for you :)
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: June 20th, 2006 08:54 pm (UTC) (Link)
You should have heard the words that did actually come out of my mouth when I called Seth fuming.
mabfan From: mabfan Date: June 19th, 2006 08:28 pm (UTC) (Link)
Can't you appeal even further?
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: June 20th, 2006 08:56 pm (UTC) (Link)
yes, but it's an $80 filing fee, and it's unclear to me whether that would be refunded if I won the case.
drmellow From: drmellow Date: June 19th, 2006 08:31 pm (UTC) (Link)
Letter to the editor!
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: June 20th, 2006 08:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
too lazy, to be honest.
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marag From: marag Date: June 19th, 2006 09:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
Hmm, I don't think it qualifies as lashon hara if you're warning people about something wrong that you know for a fact to be true. If she were saying that she saw someone else get a ticket and she didn't think it was valid, that might qualify. But this is something she can *prove* to be true, even if the judge chose not to believe her.

Mind you, I'm nowhere near a rabbi, so that's just my 2 shekels.
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estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: June 19th, 2006 10:23 pm (UTC) (Link)
yes, but who would the lashon hara be about? I don't know the name of the judge, the name of the pri- I mean county employee, etc. What I'd be writing about, were I so inclined, would be a situation in which I wrongfully received a parking ticket as a result of re-zoning of a garage. Exactly what about that would be lashon hara? I'm not saying anything bad about myself, or any other specific person.

It is 100% true that lashon hara is lashon hara EVEN IF IT'S TRUE. EVEN IF IT'S ABOUT YOURSELF. But what about my story, minus the expletives, is negative speech about an individual?
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estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: June 20th, 2006 12:40 am (UTC) (Link)
I didn't think you were accusing me. I was just trying to explain why there wouldn't be lashon hara involved.
marag From: marag Date: June 19th, 2006 11:39 pm (UTC) (Link)
I suspect it can be argued either way, just from the tiny amount of reading I've done on the subject. Hmmm...

Just to create a hypothetical, if Karen had witnessed a crime (even a minor one), she would certainly be expected to report it and tell the police what she'd seen. That's clearly not lashon hara. I think we can agree on that.

If she knew someone else was in danger of being victimized by the same criminal, I'm fairly sure she would be obligated to warn that person. Wouldn't she? Assuming that she had direct knowledge and wasn't working on hearsay?

Granted that parking tickets (while worth many a curse word) aren't the worst crime ever, if people are being unfairly ticketed, isn't she obligated to tell people so they can do something about it?
ellipticcurve From: ellipticcurve Date: June 19th, 2006 08:46 pm (UTC) (Link)
Awwww, man, that fuckin' sux. I hate it when injustice triumphs and laziness (the county employee's) is rewarded. >:<
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: June 20th, 2006 09:25 pm (UTC) (Link)
I think he made an honest mistake. I just think that his beligerent attitude in which he refused to accept the possibility that he made an honest mistake is abhorrent.
real_bethy From: real_bethy Date: June 19th, 2006 09:01 pm (UTC) (Link)
That's just insanity. I don't blame you one bit for being p.o.'d...I am just from reading your entry!

It's just plain inexcusable.

I'm sorry you had to go through that.
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: June 21st, 2006 09:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
It was ... irritating to say the least.
leahmiriam From: leahmiriam Date: June 19th, 2006 11:59 pm (UTC) (Link)
They just suck. A meter bastard with a chip on is shoulder. Get a life, dude...

I know why you went to court, I would have done the same. We presume if we offer up evidence they'll take our side and see the error.

Guess not!

estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: June 21st, 2006 09:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yep. Bastards.
hannahsarah From: hannahsarah Date: June 20th, 2006 02:35 am (UTC) (Link)

Have you talked to the owner of the garage?

estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: June 21st, 2006 09:58 pm (UTC) (Link)
It's a county owned garage. My only recourse was court.
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estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: June 21st, 2006 09:58 pm (UTC) (Link)
I didn't see you talk about chickens!
debsters1101 From: debsters1101 Date: June 20th, 2006 07:12 pm (UTC) (Link)
sigh. America. land of justice. I had a moving violation ticket to fight in NY- I didnt care about the money as much as the points. I knew I was going to lose because the cops lie all the time and it was my word against his that I was NOT speeding. but more frustrating than losing- i thought the court date was monday when in fact it was the friday before- i missed it!!! TOTALLY frustrating!!!! AND i get the ticket AND the points AND a fine!!
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: June 20th, 2006 08:53 pm (UTC) (Link)
argh, how frustrating!
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