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Shabbos Cooking - Karen's Musings
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Shabbos Cooking
I am making dinner for:
  • Friedmans (3 people)
  • Felds (4-5 people? not sure if Greg will be eating) only making side dishes; leahmiriam is making chicken and kugel, I'm taking care of the rest.
  • Us & Company (9 people give or take a few)
So far I have made:
  • BBQ Brisket in crockpot for Friedmans. Can't do part two of the brisket cooking until right before shabbos.
  • Tomato Salad x2 x4 (for Friedmans and Felds; haven't made MINE yet)
  • Tofu Dip x 1 1/2. Have to figure out who wants that.
  • Tomato Soup (4x recipe) For Friedmans and us, and also Felds if they want it
  • Chicken is marinating, will cook right before shabbos.
  • Challah (but I realized I don't have enough. DRAT.
  • Two potato kugels (one for us, one for Friedmans. Felds are getting one from Lauren)
Still to do:
  • Gefilte Fish Fritters (batter is put together, just have to get them started. Doing 2x the recipe)
  • Cucumber Salad
  • Rice
  • Asparagus
  • Fruit salad (probably best off doing this last minute)
I am considering making:
  • Cranberry cobbler (side dish not dessert)
  • Black bean dip a la magid
I purchased (because I simply don't have the wherewithall to bake desserts tonight):
  • Jelly Beans
  • Dried apricots
  • Meringues for Eleanor
  • Black and White Cookies for Felds and Friedmans
  • Cake for us

I feel like I'm missing something.

Oh, and did I mention I found out tonight that I'm doing Torah Time for the Kids on Shabbos?? ACK. Thank heavens Nancy has so many ready-made materials for me to use. But ACK!

Edit 2:08am: I am half finished frying the gefilte fish fritters. I have not cooked the rice, nor have I made the cucumber salad. I may bail on the cucumber salad, but I'm not sure yet. I've got one person coming tomorrow that says she only eats "healthy" food. I put that in quotes because everyone has a different definition of "healthy" it seems. Well, my fritters certainly aren't going to cut it. And she asked that I not pre-dress my salads. Well, guess what? I always pre-dress my salad. So I'll just leave some aside for her. But you know, my salads have very little oil in them, so I don't know what her deal is. And I hate being basically accused of eating unhealthy food. Argh. I think my willingness work around people's dietary needs/wants is taking its toll on me. I've got someone coming tomorrow who must be gluten-free, so the large majority of my dishes are gluten free, but a couple things are not. I don't feel badly about this because I didn't know she was coming until today. Plus, she doesn't have a problem picking out the things she can eat. The vast majority of food is fine for her. There are two people coming who won't eat red meat. No problem. There's one person coming who won't eat tomatoes. There is one person coming who won't eat anything so far as I can figure. And there's the chick that only eats "healthy" food. Whatever that means. I'm GOING CRAZY!

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either_or From: either_or Date: October 28th, 2005 04:43 am (UTC) (Link)
how do you make the brisket? i am so *not* good @ cooking meat of any kind.
either_or From: either_or Date: October 28th, 2005 04:45 am (UTC) (Link)
and the tofu dip. you should publish a cookbook.
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: October 28th, 2005 01:12 pm (UTC) (Link)
1/2 cup canola oil
1/4 cup cider vinegar
4 medium cloves garlic

Blend in blender or food processor until emulsified.

1 16 oz. package Nasoya Extra Firm Tofu
1 level teaspoon salt
Fresh Dill or dried dill weed (lots)
dash of pepper

Blend until smooth-ish
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: October 28th, 2005 03:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
I've got several different recipes, but I'll have to grab them for you next week.
either_or From: either_or Date: October 28th, 2005 04:51 pm (UTC) (Link)
thanks, and no rush!
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From: stormkitten Date: October 28th, 2005 01:08 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Forget something?

You've just said much more eloquently what I was trying to say.
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: October 28th, 2005 01:10 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Forget something?

I did not forget a main dish for us. If you look closely at my list, I noted that the chicken was marinating (I will cook it right before shabbos).

And yes, most people really do appreciate what I go through every week... at least the ones that are frequent guests at our table. I actually haven't gone through this in several weeks. I haven't had real shabbos company in a while.

Really, I wasn't stressed out about making it a meal everyone could eat until I got the "healthy" chick. The problem is that I *think* her definition of "healthy" is "no fat, no oil" and I know she won't eat red meat. No problem. Except that who the heck knows what else is in her criteria. And my salads simply do NOT go undressed! They don't WORK that way! You know that! Anyway, it's no biggie. She'll either have something to eat or she won't. Her sister-in-law (who I called for menu advice) told me to just not plan around her and to let her figure it out. That's fine.
either_or From: either_or Date: October 28th, 2005 04:53 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Forget something?

no fat, no oil...i don't consider that "healthy" unless a person has a particular condition that calls for it. you need fats for your brain to function properly.

anyway, *i* appreciate what you go through every week, and i've never even been to your house! but like...i'm just totally in awe of your commitment and ability!
From: stormkitten Date: October 28th, 2005 01:07 pm (UTC) (Link)
I hate to say it, but the person who is coming who says she only eats "healthy" food is being a bit of a snot. You are feeding how many people out of the goodness of your heart? The way I was raised, you eat what was put in front of you and are thankful for it. If you want something special, get your own.

Dietary needs are different -- if you're allergic to something, that is one thing, and making accommodations for that is both kind and fair. If the majority of people are likely to have a particular dietary preference, that's still different (the majority of most of my faith gatherings are vegetarian). But to ask the cook to accommodate your personal preferences when you're the only one with that preference is ungrateful.

You blow me away with posts like these. I honestly couldn't do it.
leahmiriam From: leahmiriam Date: October 28th, 2005 01:49 pm (UTC) (Link)
I always ask my guests if there is a "food allergy" so I am sure to avoid ingredients that would make them ill, lik pineapple, oranges, wheat, nuts..things people can have real reactions to. Not eating red meat is a choice many people make and I rarely eat it only because I don't digest it so well..but I never speak up to a host or hostess about this because I am their guest and whatever they choose to serve is just fine. I am a guest in someone's home, not in a restaurant. However, I do know that you want everyone to feel comfortable and be able to eat, that is why you do what you can. Since June most of my meals have been Weight Watcher friendly without anyone really noticing. I still use some oil and some fat, because you almost have to in cooking. Don't sweat it..offer a few things lower in fats and then let her or him pick through the rest. It's what I do and I would never ever think to mention to my hosts my personal desires. Even on Weight Watchers I can make good choices in other people's homes.
From: stormkitten Date: October 28th, 2005 05:07 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm also on Weight Watchers, and I consider it my responsibility to find something that I can eat manageably while in their home. As I said, food allergies are one thing. Expecting someone to cater to your tastes in such a snotty fashion is something else again.

And that is what weekly points are for. ;)
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: October 28th, 2005 03:08 pm (UTC) (Link)
Well, the thing is, that when I invited her (and really, I'm not the one that invited her... one of the people coming is moving to Israel on Sunday, so I told him to invite anyone he'd like to be able to see one last time)... anyway, when I was talking to her about coming over and giving her directions I asked if there was anything she wouldn't eat. And that's when she told me not to dress the salad. But she didn't put it that way. She said not to put any fat in the salad. It kind of annoyed me then, too. But, suffice it to say, I cooked what I cooked and either she'll eat or she won't.
From: stormkitten Date: October 28th, 2005 05:08 pm (UTC) (Link)
As other people have said, no fat !=healthy.
magid From: magid Date: October 28th, 2005 02:15 pm (UTC) (Link)
Can I just say, wow. You impress me to no end. I think I've got a challenge when I'm making one extra meal to deliver, and you've got two. Plus a couple of challenging guests (well, at least one).

And I'm honored that you might make the bean dip :-).

A friend of mine who's a fairly picky eater but a very good guest (non-celiac) has said to me more than once that even if the whole rest of the meal isn't to his taste (unlikely), "there's always challah". And though I definitely respect food allergies, and try to cater to some extent to preferences, it's not worth going nuts over for one person, really. It sounds like there will be plenty for her to eat even without salad (chicken, rice, asparagus, fruit salad...).

*hoping you got some sleep last night*
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: October 28th, 2005 03:41 pm (UTC) (Link)
making an extra meal isn't a big deal. Getting it out of the house on time, now THAT's a big deal.

As for the bean dip... well, the only thing precluding me from wanting to make it is that I didn't wash my food processor bowl last night. So I'd have to wash it before I could make the dip. Therefore, it's entirely possible that I won't find the time to do it. It was mighty tasty, that's for sure!

If one person is coming to my house and I know about a food aversion, I try to avoid that food. The trick comes when there are more people coming. At what point do I draw the line and say, "this is what you're getting, pick around what you don't want," at least to myself? It's a fine line. Matching up 2 people's food aversions might not be difficult, unless one is gluten-free and the other eats nothing but whole grains. It's when there are more variables that it gets tricky. So, sometime around 2:30 last night I said to heck with it and stopped worrying about whether M.L. (the "healthy" chick) could eat anything.

I did get some sleep. I went to sleep around 3:45. I rolled out of bed, very grumpily at 6:58 after several attempts from Seth to ascertain what time I wanted to get up. (I wanted to get up at 6, but you can see it didn't happen)
magid From: magid Date: October 28th, 2005 05:56 pm (UTC) (Link)
Delivery is always the killer. Every once in a while, someone will pick up, and it's such a relief!

*nod* about not washing the food processor. Someone gifted me with one last year, and the most frustrating thing about it is how one bit doesn't come apart, so it's a nuisance to wash. No way I'd use it for something oily (pesto...) either, because of that.

Other than allergies, if there's one thing someone doesn't eat, I either don't make it, or make sure there are enough other alternatives that it's not a problem. (It was tricky having the non-dairy person over with the vegetarian who didn't like vegetables.) But with something as ubiquitous as fat, it's not quite the same (as others have noted, fat doesn't equate with non-healthy, within reasonable bounds).

I so couldn't function on that amount of sleep. More power to you. (And once the new job starts, I'm hoping you won't have to have such late marathon sessions, with all the commute time you'll save :-).
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: October 28th, 2005 06:09 pm (UTC) (Link)
Actually, my food processor is fairly easy to clean. I never, ever, ever use my dairy one actually, because it's a royal pain in the tushie to clean. But my cuisinart is easy peasy. BUT I have a pile of other things to deal with when I get home. Oh, and it's GREAT for pesto! I have a mini one I prefer to use for pesto, but that one's more treacherous to clean.
magid From: magid Date: October 28th, 2005 06:25 pm (UTC) (Link)

Though since mine was a gift, I can't complain too much :-). Before then I didn't have a food processor at all, just a blender that had been milchigized for me unintentionally. It's pretty easy to clean, but certain things don't do as well as others (pesto, again).
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: October 28th, 2005 06:10 pm (UTC) (Link)
oh, and I don't function WELL on that little sleep. Especially if I do it repeatedly. But I slept a lot over yom tov, so I've got a little more leeway right now.
magid From: magid Date: October 28th, 2005 06:25 pm (UTC) (Link)
Somehow the rest I got on yom tov wasn't enough; I was sooooo exhausted all yesterday that I skipped the social thing I'd thought about going to.
debsters1101 From: debsters1101 Date: October 30th, 2005 07:54 pm (UTC) (Link)
ok, what, pray tell, are gefilte fish fritters? cuz you always talk about them and they sound so darn yummy and my husband is not the biggest gefilte fish lover so maybe he would like this better....
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: October 30th, 2005 08:08 pm (UTC) (Link)
1 thawed loaf of frozen gefilte fish (sweet)
1/2 cup matzoh meal
garlic powder, onion powder, salt, pepper
3 eggs

Mix together. Pan fry like you would fry latkes. Serve cold dipped in tomato sauce spiced with garlic powder, onion powder, salt, and pepper
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