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I have been vindicated!

I've gotten a little bit of crap from certain parents about the fact that Julian goes to bed with a bottle of milk. We do this because his grandmother (and possibly his mother before her?) had been doing so. The bottle, unlike the sippy cup, and milk, unlike water, is comfort for Julian. The last thing I want to do right now is rip away one of his few comfort routines. He doesn't have a favorite blanket or toy (though he's very, very fond of a stuffed dog he's got here, but that wasn't like it was a stuffed dog that he's had all along.

Anyway, yes, I know that milk in a bottle is bad when babies are going to sleep. Much of the time, he finishes the bottle before I've finished singing him to sleep, so I can take it away. Other times he still wants to hold onto it and cries if I take it away. And he won't take water in the bottle, though sometimes he'll take diluted milk. He can tell the difference though.

We met with the child psychologist today (sans Julian...it was just for us), and she said we should absolutely NOT try to take the bottle away from him right now (though she did say we could continue trying to dilute the milk). The last thing we should do, she said, is take away his comfort.

HAH! I say, HAH!


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From: cecerose Date: November 8th, 2004 09:46 pm (UTC) (Link)

You go grrl.

Your motherly instincts RULE!!!! =0)

(cue: "We are the champions" by Queen)
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: November 9th, 2004 05:02 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: You go grrl.

yeah, I rock. ;)
glenbarnett From: glenbarnett Date: November 8th, 2004 10:41 pm (UTC) (Link)

You have to trust yourself on these things.

estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: November 9th, 2004 05:05 am (UTC) (Link)
I know, but it's hard when I wasn't given a lot of prep time for this. I didn't get to start with a newborn (I KNOW what to do with a newborn!), plus we didn't have 9 months notice... we had about 6 weeks (and a good portion of those six weeks were transitional weeks...so we were still caring for Julian...just not full-time).

People just make me mad by telling me how I absolutely MUST take care of this little child. People who give me advice are more than welcome to do so. I'm all for advice. I can't get enough of it! But people who expect that I absolutely must follow their advice and no one else's irritate me.
ichur72 From: ichur72 Date: November 9th, 2004 05:52 am (UTC) (Link)
I get the idea that once you have a kid, you're suddenly considered to be some form of public property -- i.e., available for everyone else to comment on. As in, "Oh, you're doing *X*?! Don't you know that will (chap his skin/rot his brain/impair his manual dexterity/whatever)?"
caryabend From: caryabend Date: November 8th, 2004 11:00 pm (UTC) (Link)


Instincts: 1
Nosy Nannies: 0

Go you!
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: November 9th, 2004 05:08 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Yay!

tee hee.
cleobatya From: cleobatya Date: November 9th, 2004 01:18 am (UTC) (Link)
woo hoo im so proud of you
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: November 9th, 2004 05:08 am (UTC) (Link)

I miss you! Come home!
From: gittygiggles Date: November 9th, 2004 03:58 am (UTC) (Link)
people seriously need to chill. i mean everyone gets so worked up about differnet parenting techniques (like...you're welcome to your opinion, but if your opinion is different...THEN YOU'RE WRONG!!!)

people go through crap for all sorts fo things. like "walkers should be banned in america b/c they're KILLERS!" um...right. if the parents are watching their kids...they wont fall down the stairs! or better yet...CLOSE OFF THE STAIRS! WOAH! HOW BOUT THAT!?

or tons of other stuff. i say, dont sweat the small stuff. if your kid is alive, happy, and well adjusted, they can bite you :)
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: November 9th, 2004 05:07 am (UTC) (Link)
eh. I'm not a big fan of walkers... because although I'M smart enough to close off my stairs and watch my kid, and YOU'RE smart enough to close off your stairs and watch your kid, the statistics show a pretty high rate of people who are too stupid to breed, but do anyway, and then don't block off their stairs or watch their kid.

That's why G-d invented the exersaucer! All the fun of a walker, but it goes NOWHERE!

The kid is definitely alive, happy, and well-adjusted. So I'm not going to worry about the milk bottle right now. Plus, he loves having his teeth brushed, so I'll just make sure we're super-fastidious.
From: gittygiggles Date: November 9th, 2004 05:46 am (UTC) (Link)
yes...for stupid people, walkers are not a good idea. but asher LOVED his walker BECAUSE he could move. thus, i am a fan of them!
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estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: November 9th, 2004 10:07 am (UTC) (Link)
ouch. This is the neice that isn't graduating?
jeannegrrl From: jeannegrrl Date: November 9th, 2004 05:06 am (UTC) (Link)
What everyone else said. :-)
Kick booty
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: November 9th, 2004 05:08 am (UTC) (Link)
:-D Go me!
cellio From: cellio Date: November 9th, 2004 07:33 am (UTC) (Link)
Go you!

A phrase you might try out on pushy busy-bodies: "I will give your input all the consideration it deserves". :-)
From: predigested Date: November 9th, 2004 07:41 am (UTC) (Link)

have to disagree with you

Gee whiz, but I don't see this working. You give that kid a bottle of milk for bedtime comfort, and all kinds of things can go wrong.

Teeth will come in crooked and rotten, his mouth-shape will contort over the months into a chimpanzee's pucker. He may start to shy away from parental contact in preference to anything he can suck: bottle, lollipops, sheet corners, pine cones, lego blocks, remote controls, roadkill.

Development of social skills may suffer because each conversation starts with a pause and a pop as he removes whatever he is oral-fixating on that day. His peers may shun him; his parents seem distant due to the lack of hugs and snuggles most other parents are getting from their kids.

Grade school will be trial after trial of ridicule and humiliation. The hormones and antibiotics from the cow's milk he was given as a baby will wreak their havoc now, causing extremely harsh acne and other skin conditions. These will last throughout high school and into his college years, denying him any close relationships with beautiful people. His intimate nature will become stunted through non-use.

College will fare no better, and his oral-fixation will come back to haunt him, as he goes on eating binges and becomes 50 lbs overweight. His favorite foods will be Oreos and those caramels with the white creamy centers. His self-esteem goes into the toilet, and he stops showering. He stops changing his clothes everyday, and then he slips even further and starts goes to classes in his ratty pink bathrobe. Other students start deliberately sitting further away from him in the lecture halls. Even the professors have to work to hide sneers of contempt when talking to him after class.

The last straw will be when a fraternity pretends to want to induct him and he goes along with it. Initiation night comes and instead of becoming a frat member and being welcoming into a group of friends, it turns out they just had a prank planned at his expense. Half-naked and gibbering, he'll stumble out the front door of the dorm house amidst drunken hoots and female laughter. And that's when he snaps.

That's when he goes off to Walmart and buys a hunting rifle with a scope. That's when he climbs the school clock tower and waits for first light. That's how he comes to the point where he's sighting teenagers in the crosshairs while tonguing Oreo debris from between his teeth.

Of course, this is just one possible scenario. Everything could turn out just fine. Here's hoping!
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: November 9th, 2004 07:45 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: have to disagree with you

Dear GAWD I hope you are joking! Don't scare a new mother like that!
From: predigested Date: November 9th, 2004 07:56 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: have to disagree with you

I'm an expert in these matters, please. If you look through the history books, you'll see that bed-time bottles were given to the infants that grew up to be Timothy McVeigh, Lee Harvey Oswald, Richard Simmons, George W. Bush, Napoleon Bonaparte...

Yes, of course, I'm joking. Something about seeing all those happy posts just made me flick the other way. Have a nice day!
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: November 9th, 2004 10:07 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: have to disagree with you

tee hee. Well, I did laugh through most of your post. But then I started to worry. I do, after all, have mommy brain!
either_or From: either_or Date: November 9th, 2004 10:39 am (UTC) (Link)
absolutely unrelated, but my sister's dad told me i couldn't play the trumpet b/c it would deform my mouth.

what a crock.
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either_or From: either_or Date: November 9th, 2004 01:55 pm (UTC) (Link)
i hope the brain deformity isn't proportional to the size of the instrument, since i ultimately ended up playing the tuba!
bluejeanjexy From: bluejeanjexy Date: November 9th, 2004 12:48 pm (UTC) (Link)
I played the trumpet for three years. It did fantastic things for my mouth. My lips are a lot plumper than they used to be. Hooray for horns!
either_or From: either_or Date: November 9th, 2004 01:51 pm (UTC) (Link)
my lips are already super plump. maybe it's for the best that i didn't play...
bluejeanjexy From: bluejeanjexy Date: November 9th, 2004 12:49 pm (UTC) (Link)
I don't get it, what's wrong with putting him to bed with a bottle of milk?
estherchaya From: estherchaya Date: November 9th, 2004 04:23 pm (UTC) (Link)
The biggest problem is that the milk has sugar in it (natural sugar) and it sits on his teeth all night, which is very bad for his teeth. Though they are only baby teeth, he still does need them to be in good shape. Also, it can be a choking hazard. And there are other problems with long-term bottle use, but I'm not concerned.
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